Get the old stories right

Walter Kirn@walterkirn Old news is more important than new news because new news is built on top of it. When you are renovating a structure you don't start with the roof but with the foundation. Let's go back and get the old stories right. Otherwise nothing will be right, from here on out.

Friday, October 24, 2025

Making adjustments and improvements

The Church announced adjustments and improvements to the scripture study aids.

Minor Adjustments Made to Select Study Helps in Doctrine and Covenants, Book of Mormon

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/minor-adjustments-to-select-study-helps-in-doctrine-and-covenants-and-book-of-mormon-announced

“These adjustments bring the section introductions in line with what we have learned from more than twenty years of careful study of Joseph Smith’s documents. The minor changes to dates and places reflect the careful attention with which we believe this remarkable legacy of divine revelation ought to be treated,” Elder Kyle S. McKay, General Authority Seventy and Church Historian, said. “We hope the contextual additions help readers better understand why and how the Lord communicated with the Church through His Prophet.”

It is wonderful to see such adjustments, improvements and clarifications.

This is good precedent for making similar improvements to correct errors in the commentary in: 

- the Joseph Smith Papers

- the Gospel Topics Essays

- the Saints books

- curriculum, and 

- Church websites.

We have noted many such improvements on this blog.

The announcement explains how the adjustments are being rolled out:

The adjustments are available now on ChurchofJesusChrist.org and the Gospel Library

mobile app for most languages, with additional languages to follow.

Printed copies will begin reflecting these adjustments in the coming months.

Members are not expected to obtain new scriptures as a result of these updates.

This is the model that could (and should) be followed to make adjustments, improvements and corrections.

Let's hope that happens!



Friday, October 17, 2025

High agency and fixing problems

This graph illustrates what we try to do on this blog. It depicts "high agency" employees.

Because we're independent, we obviously cannot fix the problems we identify.

Only the Church History and other departments can do that.

But we do offer possible solutions to the problems we identify and then make specific recommendations to correct and/or improve the content.

(click to enlarge)

It says there are 5 levels of work:

Level 1: “There is a problem.”

Level 2: “There is a problem, and I’ve found some causes.”

Level 3: “Here’s the problem, here are some possible causes, and here are some possible solutions.”

Level 4: “Here’s the problem, here’s what I think caused it, here are some possible solutions, and here’s the one I think we should pick.”

Level 5: “I identified a problem, figured out what caused it, researched how to fix it, and I fixed it. Just wanted to keep you in the loop.”




Saturday, October 4, 2025

Improving the Moroni-Cumorah narrative

This is an excellent reference that could be improved with some additional material from authentic historical sources.

https://history.churchofjesuschrist.org/content/moroni-messenger-of-the-restoration?lang=eng

Original in blue, my suggestions in red.

_____

Moroni: Messenger of the Restoration

Introduction

On the night of September 21, 1823, Joseph Smith prayed to know God’s further will toward him. 

Steadily a light grew “as though the house was filled with consuming and unquenchable fire.”1 

Replace the sentence with this: Oliver Cowdery wrote that, "to use his [Joseph's] own description, the first sight was as though the house was filled with consuming and unquenchable fire."

1. Letter from Oliver Cowdery to William W. Phelps, Feb. 1835, Kirtland, Ohio, published in Messenger and Advocate, Feb. 1835, 79.

1. Add the following link to the footnote: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1834-1836/67

Moroni, a messenger sent from God, stood before him. In mortal life Moroni had been the last of ancient American prophets having authority2 from God and whose teachings were recorded for our time.

2. “The permission granted to men on earth called or ordained to act for and in behalf of God the Father or Jesus Christ in doing God’s work” (Guide to the Scriptures, “Authority,” scriptures.ChurchofJesusChrist.org)

No suggestions.

Moroni declared “that the time was at hand for the Gospel3 in all its fullness to be preached in power, unto all nations” and that Joseph was “to be an instrument in the hands of God” in that work.4 

3. “God’s plan of salvation, made possible through the Atonement of Jesus Christ. The gospel includes the eternal truths or laws, covenants, and ordinances needed for mankind to enter back into the presence of God. God restored the fulness of the gospel to the earth in the 19th century through the Prophet Joseph Smith” (Guide to the Scriptures, “Gospel,” scriptures.ChurchofJesusChrist.org).

4. History of the Church, 4:537.

4. Replace HC reference with JSP: "Church History," aka the "Wentworth letter," https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/church-history-1-march-1842/2 

He quoted ancient prophets who had foreseen that this time would come. As Moroni stood before him, Joseph was shown in vision “the place where the plates were deposited” (Joseph Smith—History 1:42).

He quoted ancient prophets who had foreseen that this time would come. Moroni explained that "a history of the aborigines of this country... was written and deposited not far from" Joseph's home, and that "the record is on a side hill on the Hill of Cumorah 3 miles from this place." 5 As Moroni stood before him, Joseph was shown in vision “the place where the plates were deposited” (Joseph Smith—History 1:42).

5. See https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1834-1836/68 and https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/lucy-mack-smith-history-1844-1845/41.

Every September for four years, Joseph went to the Hill Cumorah and was taught by Moroni. In September 1827 Joseph met Moroni at the hill and received the gold plates. Twenty-one months later, having completed the translation, Joseph returned the plates to Moroni.5

Every September for three years, Joseph went to the Hill Cumorah and was taught by Moroni. In early 1827, Joseph came home late from Manchester and explained to his concerned parents that "as I passed by the hill of Cumorah, where the plates are, the angel of the Lord met me and said, that I had not been engaged enough in the work of the Lord; that the time had come for the record to ​be​ brought forth."6 In September 1827 Joseph met Moroni at the hill and received the gold plates. When he finished the translation, Joseph returned the plates to Moroni.7

5. See History of the Church, 1:13.

6. https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/lucy-mack-smith-history-1845/111

7. Because the cited reference in note 5 does not say what the narrative claims, it is better to cite JS-H 1:60

Quotes

Joseph Smith Quotes

“This messenger [Moroni] proclaimed himself to be an angel of God, sent to bring the joyful tidings that the covenant which God made with ancient Israel was at hand to be fulfilled, that the preparatory work for the second coming of the Messiah was speedily to commence; that the time was at hand for the Gospel in all its fullness to be preached in power, unto all nations that a people might be prepared for the Millennial reign. I was informed that I was chosen to be an instrument in the hands of God to bring about some of His purposes in this glorious dispensation” (History of the Church, 4:536–37).

Replace reference with JSP

“Let us take the Book of Mormon, which a man took and hid in his field, securing it by his faith, to spring up in the last days, or in due time; let us behold it coming forth out of the ground, which is indeed accounted the least of all seeds, but behold it branching forth, yea, even towering, with lofty branches, and God-like majesty, until it, like the mustard seed, becomes the greatest of all herbs. And it is truth, and it has sprouted and come forth out of the earth, and righteousness begins to look down from heaven, and God is sending down His powers, gifts and angels, to lodge in the branches thereof” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, sel. Joseph Fielding Smith (1976), 98).

Replace reference with JSP

Witnesses

Joseph Knight, Early Member of the Church 

“[In] the forepart of September [1827,] I went to Rochester on business and returned by Palmyra to be there about the 22nd of September. . . . That night we all went to bed and in the morning I got up and my horse and carriage were gone. . . . After a while he [Joseph Smith] came home [with] the horse. All came into the house to breakfast. But no thing [was] said about where they had been. After breakfast Joseph called me into the other room. . . . He set his foot on the bed and leaned his head on his hand and said, . . . ‘It is ten times better than I expected.’ Then he went on to tell the length and width and thickness of the plates, and said he, ‘They appear to be gold’” (Reminiscenses of Joseph Knight, Church History Library, Salt Lake City; spelling, grammar, and capitalization standardized. This manuscript, written between 1833 and 1847, has been published in Dean C. Jessee, “Joseph Knight’s Recollection of Early Mormon History,” BYU Studies, vol. 17, no. 1 [Fall 1976], 30–39).


John A. Widtsoe, Apostle, 1921–1952 

“The first visitation of Moroni came in answer to prayer. So came the First Vision. The Lord is ready to give, but he requires that his children ask. It would not be natural or wise to force blessings on anyone. The power of prayer is inestimable. One prays for little; usually much comes in answer. . . . The most marvelous part of the message to the young man, lying upon his wakeful pillow, was that he, Joseph Smith, was the chosen instrument in the hands of the Lord to inaugurate the great work planned for the last days of the world. It was astonishing! It was wonderful!” (Joseph Smith: Seeker after Truth, Prophet of God [1951], 32–33; paragraph divisions altered).


Questions

How many times did Moroni visit the Prophet Joseph?

There is no record of the exact number of visits from Moroni, but 22 have been documented (see H. Donl Peterson, “Moroni—Joseph Smith’s Tutor,” Ensign, Jan. 1992, 22–29).


What did Joseph Smith learn in his visits with Moroni?

Moroni taught Joseph Smith from scripture, quoting Malachi, Isaiah, Joel, and Acts. John Taylor explained: “Joseph Smith in the first place was set apart by the Almighty according to the [councils] of the Gods in the eternal worlds, to introduce the principles of life among the people. . . . The principles which he had, placed him in communication with . . . Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Noah, Adam, Seth, Enoch, and Jesus and the Father and the apostles that lived on this continent as well as those who lived on the Asiatic continent. . . . Why? Because he had to introduce a dispensation which was called the dispensation of the fulness of times, and it was known as such by the ancient servants of God” (Deseret News, June 9, 1880, 280).


What did Moroni teach Joseph Smith about the ancient Americans?

Joseph also learned about the ancient inhabitants of the Americas, “who they were, and from whence they came; a brief sketch of their origin, progress, civilization, laws, governments, of their righteousness and iniquity, and the blessings of God being finally withdrawn from them as a people” (History of the Church, 4:537).

Replace reference with JSP

Readings

Online Resources at ChurchofJesusChrist.org

Moroni 8:16


A Period of Preparation, 1823–29”—Church History in the Fulness of Times Student Manual (Church Educational System manual, 2003), 37–51


Many Angels Visited Joseph Smith”—in “Joseph Smith: First President of the Church,” Presidents of the Church Student Manual (Church Educational System manual, 2004), 7


Joseph Told His Father about Moroni’s Visit”—in “Joseph Smith: First President of the Church,” Presidents of the Church Student Manual (Church Educational System manual, 2004), 7


Coming Forth of the Book of Mormon”—in “Establishing the Foundations of the Church,” Our Heritage: A Brief History of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (1996), 5–11

Online Resources at the Joseph Smith Papers

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1834-1836/68

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/lucy-mack-smith-history-1845/111

Online Resources at BYU

“Katharine Smith Salisbury’s Recollections of Joseph’s Meetings with Moroni”—Kyle R. Walker, BYU Studies, vol. 41, no. 3 (2002), 4–17


Newspaper report of speech given by Joseph Smith’s younger sister.

Corroborating Joseph’s production of D&C 132

The 2025 Come Follow Me lessons covered D&C 132 recently. This has long been a controversial section, in large part because it was never...